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Peter Welpton's avatar

this is oustanding analysis and a ton of clear headed thinking about most of what has jumbled in my head since watching the three available episodes.

I am not a Mr Beast subscriber, but it turns out I know someone who was a participant in these Games and hearing her talk about the experience of shooting it and explaining why everyone is so overtly emotional about outcomes, along with some insight into the production backstory, I find endlessly facsinating.

But I also have spent a LOT of time thinking about why the TV show isn't on anyone I know radar and I am currently the only person I know who has watched any of it. I'm in the media business and the fact the #1 YT'r can put on a production like this, and have it not even blip inside my network of friends is really confusing to me, but Julia puts a lot of really good clarity on the matter here.

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Ian Edgar's avatar

Great piece - thanks for writing it. So much of the confusion around this in the industry comes down to definitions of both TV and YouTube - a lot of synecdoche and metonymy going on.

TV can means so many things. The box, the audience behaviour, the familiar forms and formats, the length, the production quality/cost, the tone/style. In the earlier days of creating hit YouTube videos in a media company environment, we’d constantly be warning production companies off “making it too TV”, while our videos got longer and longer and our percentage of watch time happening in the living room rocketed up (30% at last count). On really robust and well-programmed channels there was space for more “YouTube-y” stuff and “show-shows”, which were both valuable and performed really different roles in terms of bringing people in and developing loyalty.

The big mistake people make is under-analysing the line to goal. Making a season of a “TV show” and bunging it on YouTube is a terrible plan. Taking a YouTuber and crowbarring them into something from the world of “traditional”, often hoping they’ll “bring their audience with them” is a miserable, if well-trodden, path.

Traditional TV does wild numbers on YT, it has to be said. Trillions of views. All of the biggest parent properties by monthly views (excluding shorts) are primarily making content first for television. The content just performs radically differently because of how established behaviours are and how discovery works. Indian, Pakistani, Bangla, Vietnamese, Mexican & Korean soaps and dramas are massive. Kids “shows” of course, but animation of all kinds gets trillions too. Talent formats from TV do hundreds of billions - both in their full form and cut-down to individual performances & auditions. TV-length docs can get tens of millions of views each, but with wildly different paths to high viewership compared to cable or streaming platforms. A Michelle Khare or Cleo Abram’s approach is totally based on making SHOWS. A show like Taskmaster can succeed with international viewers entirely through YouTube without a second thought.

It ends up getting philosophical - most conversations about YouTube on TV or TV on YouTube or one becoming the other don’t establish what they mean by either term. Are we talking about how it feels? How it looks? How long it is? Who’s in it? Who’s in creative control of it? How it’s discovered? Where people watch it? Millions of dollars of utter folly have been spent on that confusion and many millions more will be wasted all for the want of some grown-up clarification.

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